Messages posted by: Anonymous

I'm not the original poster but I have to say I am curious as well. I note that the question remains unanswered.

The phone I use - the Nokia N95, the very one pictured on the BlueWhaleMail front page - already supports IMAP, POP and SMTP, with features like SSL, the use of non standard ports, APOP, appending signatures and multiple mail boxes (and it's very reliable). The built in software is also more standards compliant/feature complete it seems. Like BlueWhaleMail, it already supports alerting on new mail (and optionally the automatic download of new mail). It's the same application as the SMS message software so it's no harder to use. This has been true of my last few phones, I would note.

I can't see any reason whatsoever to use this software, it seems to entirely pointless from a potential user perspective. As the original poster enquired, I too would like to know what specific advantages this software has over the built in software in a device like the N95.

It seems like it only has disadvantages and that it's some crazy half baked marketing idea by a graduate to sell advertising space by getting people to install a 3rd party application that's not quite as good as the software already on their phone.

Specifically the disadvantages I can see it's a less mature product (with reference to posts from users experiencing problems with it), it doesn't function as consistently as existing integrated email clients (which tend to have the same interface the SMS software does, meaning users are instantly familiar with it), it's not going to integrate quite as well with the built in address book/calendar software and it displays advertising on the users phone when they are using it.

This is advertising that costs the user, I would note (as it's the user that picks up the bill for the data transfer).

Really, why on earth should anyone in their right mind bother with this software?

i can not seem to make bluewhalemail operate on my Orange E650
should it work on this phone?

...This area seems to be the only suitable place to discuss feedback (unless I'm being blind!)

So here is my first bit of feedback...

My phone is the Nokia E61, and from initial installation to account set up, the program was very very easy to use.

The inbox has a nice layout, and is easy to navigate.

One minor detail that I would change if I could would be the actual message view - i am not a great fan of the green background and the "Your Ad Here!" bar at the top of each page. This perhaps could be changed if there was a small charge for the service (or to download it), or if there were actual ads on the page.

Other than that, personally i think its a great program! And for anyone without an email client on their phone, and wants to recieve email on it, then it is a must!

I'd be keen to hear everyone else's feedback

Ben Crawford
benscrawford

Hi there @ BlueWhale,

many providers are pushing prosumer blackberry service offers with data packages cheaper than the standard data package into the market (and even for your E-Series Nokia you get free blackberry software these days). How will you compete with these offers?

regards,

Oliver

What advantages does your solution have over the built-in email clients already on handsets (e.g. the W950i, or the various Nokias)?

I turned off ident lookup in exim4 - this was adding 5 seconds to the initial greeting being sent out to the client.

exim4 now logs the following:

Code:

 2007-06-21 22:21:30 SMTP connection from [X.X.X.X]:6389 I=[myemailserver]:587 (TCP/IP connection count = 1)
 2007-06-21 22:21:30 no host name found for IP address X.X.X.X
 2007-06-21 22:21:47 TLS error on connection from (localhost) [X.X.X.X]:6389 (gnutls_handshake): A TLS fatal alert has
  been received.
 2007-06-21 22:21:47 SMTP connection from (localhost) [X.X.X.X]:6389 I=[myemailserver]:587 closed by EOF
 2

Almost forgot to add...

Now when sending, the following error messages show up in my mail server's logs:

Code:

 SMTP syntax error in "\026\003\001?7\001??3\003\001Fy\255\032\374\021\250   \vS}\374vH|9Cv\363\375\317<Q\037>\315I\316Ak\030\334??\f?9?3?\026?5?/?" H=[mobileip]:11757 I=[mailserverip]:587 NULL character(s) present (shown as '?')
 
 SMTP connection from [mobileip]:11757 I=[mailserverip]:587 lost (error: Connection reset by peer)

I guess the second message is an indication that BlueWhaleMail has forcibly closed the connection?

Hi Michael,

Thanks for the speedy reply.

I updated the software via the Help menu option. Now, when I try sending, it takes me to the 'Advanced Settings' view with this error message:

"We connected to the server, but it didn't seem to want to begin a secure connection. Are you sure the server name and port are correct?"

I checked my settings and confirmed that they were correct.

Using the Debian swaks tool I was able to simulate an authenticated SMTP session with my mail server and dump the protocol handshake:

# swaks -a -tls -q AUTH -s myemailserver.com -p 587 -au user -ap passwd

=== Trying myemailserver.com:587...
=== Connected to myemailserver.com.
<- 220 myemailserver.com ESMTP Exim 4.63 Wed, 20 Jun 2007 23:12:33 +0100
-> EHLO myemailserver.com
<- 250-myemailserver.com Hello mylocalhost [...]
<- 250-SIZE 52428800
<- 250-PIPELINING
<- 250-STARTTLS
<- 250 HELP
-> STARTTLS
<- 220 TLS go ahead
=== TLS started w/ cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA
~> EHLO myemailserver.com
<~ 250-myemailserver.com Hello mylocalhost [...]
<~ 250-SIZE 52428800
<~ 250-PIPELINING
<~ 250-AUTH PLAIN
<~ 250 HELP
~> AUTH PLAIN AHJhbQBtZWdhbWFuSTk=
<~ 235 Authentication succeeded
~> QUIT
<~ 221 myemailserver.com closing connection
=== Connection closed with remote host.

Unfortunately, I am unable to obtain the handshake log for when BlueWhaleMail attempts to connect to the server. But I hope the above sample handshake will help with debugging what the problem might be.

Do I need to restart Bluewhalemail everytime I turn on the phone or it will automatically go get my e-mail?
Confused

Can I receive and make phone calls while running Blue Whale Mail?
Confused

hi again when i try to open the file a box pops up and says "failed to load main-classmanifes attridute from the file that i put it in y is this happening

Hi,

I've setup my own exim4 MTA with Courier as my IMAP server. I've turned on TLS-based authentication for both incoming and outgoing mail.

So, my setup for incoming mail is:

Authenticated IMAP4 over TLS via port 993

And my setup for outgoing mail is:

Authenticated SMTP over TLS via port 587

I can receive incoming mail just fine using BlueWhaleMail. But my outgoing mails get rejected by my mail server and show up as a little red cross in BlueWhaleMail. The logs indicate that exim4 thinks that somebody is attempting an open relay, which in turn indicates that BlueWhaleMail isn't authenticating itself properly with my mail server when it wishes to send a message.

I can send and receive email without problems when I use the above settings in Mozilla Thunderbird. So I figure this must be an issue with BlueWhaleMail's SMTP side of things?

hi
i tried to download bluewhalemail software on to my phone (a motorola L7 /slvr) and its said the file was to big to download when it has 53 mb and i have only used up 8% of it

why

Can I access my IMAP email over SSL using BlueWhaleMail ?

Hi,

What advantages does BlueWhaleMail have over other, more established email clients such as ProfiMail, Berggie and EQ3 (amongst others) ...?